1 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,280 This is the way we sit and wait, sit and wait, sit and wait. 2 00:00:49,432 --> 00:00:52,312 This is the way we sit and wait. 3 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Good job my friends. 4 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Let’s play the quiet game. 5 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Quiet game. 6 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,080 What comes to mind 7 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,400 when you imagine a school? 8 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Kids sitting at their desks? 9 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,040 Perhaps a teacher in front 10 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,680 struggling to keep their attention. 11 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Or a school bell 12 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,520 ringing through the hallways. 13 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,800 When I think of school 14 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,320 I think of chalk. 15 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,880 I still picture it in my hands 16 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,680 nervously trying to solve a math problem on the blackboard. 17 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,320 Welcome to the world. 18 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,160 My own school days are long gone 19 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,280 but for my daughter, they have yet to begin. 20 00:01:58,499 --> 00:02:00,579 By the time she will go to school 21 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:02,973 I worry that she'll be confronted 22 00:02:02,998 --> 00:02:04,082 with more frightening things 23 00:02:04,107 --> 00:02:06,987 than solving math problems in front of the class. 24 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Nineteen children and two teachers were killed 25 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,800 at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. 26 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:14,080 City leaders in Uvalde 27 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,200 are calling for privacy and compassion for the families 28 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,000 of the victims and survivors... 29 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,000 I remember watching the news 30 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,880 about the school shooting in Uvalde. 31 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,360 My daughter was two months old and sleeping in my lap 32 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,200 oblivious to what was happening 33 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,960 just a couple towns away from us. 34 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,480 Since that day, I keep wondering... 35 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,440 How can we keep her safe 36 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,280 in a world like this? 37 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,720 This morning, flags are flying at half staff across Texas 38 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,680 marking one year since one of the worst school shootings 39 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,960 in American history. 40 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,240 One year ago today, an 18 year old gunman 41 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,240 broke into an elementary school in Uvalde 42 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,160 killing nineteen children and two teachers. 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,640 For many, the reminders of the tragedy are everywhere. 44 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,760 With an uptick in school shootings 45 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,480 and the fears that come with them 46 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:06,320 a lot of Texas parents are wondering 47 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,640 how best to protect their kids 48 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,360 while setting them up for success in the future. 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,400 How can I help you? 50 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Good afternoon. 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,080 I'm looking for a daycare for my daughter. 52 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,080 I wanted to gather some more information 53 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,240 if that's possible. 54 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Yes, ma’am. 55 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,800 It might be an awkward question, but do you have a safety plan 56 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:31,720 in case of a school shooting happening? 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,240 We’re getting introduced to all this shooting stuff just now. 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,320 OK. 59 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,240 So, you know, we do lockdowns. 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,880 We do those kind of drills. 61 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,240 But right now with active shooter... 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,400 We are in the process of figuring all that stuff out. 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,440 - Ok. - It’s just, we never thought 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 that we’d have to be going to training for this. 65 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Yeah, I’m asking because I’m... 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,040 I just moved here from Belgium, about four years ago. 67 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,160 And we never had a school shooting in Belgium. 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 So for me, this is all new. And I'm a bit worried about it. 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 You know, I was born and raised here in Austin. 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,080 And this whole Uvalde thing, I think that hit us home. 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Being so close to Uvalde... 72 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,680 But yes, ma'am 73 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:22,240 we're hoping that never happens to us. 74 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,255 And we do have locked doors and all that good stuff. 75 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,377 Okay. 76 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,320 But, you know, active shooter plan? 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Not yet. 78 00:04:34,473 --> 00:04:36,245 Olivia! 79 00:04:37,144 --> 00:04:38,468 Joshua! 80 00:04:39,403 --> 00:04:40,648 Junior! 81 00:04:42,589 --> 00:04:43,589 Laura! 82 00:04:44,358 --> 00:04:45,358 Emma! 83 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:47,000 Go sit down, please. 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Go sit down, baby. 85 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Working with children, really makes a difference. 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Sometimes you have a rough day... 87 00:04:55,903 --> 00:04:57,583 Anything to warm up... 88 00:04:58,459 --> 00:04:59,459 I got you! 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,960 And then you come over here and just a kiss and a hug 90 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,280 or a silly phrase.... 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,160 In that moment you just laugh. 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,600 I am originally from Venezuela. 93 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Over there, we deal with another type of safeness. 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 You go out and you know you cannot carry your necklace. 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,440 You know that you need to pay attention 96 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 of your surroundings and stuff like that 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,200 It’s a whole other level. 98 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:35,160 But you don’t have the fear to send your kids to school. 99 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:38,640 I can’t recall going to school... 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 feeling scared. Or my mom talking to me 101 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,040 “If somebody comes to school to shoot you 102 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,640 you’ve got nowhere to go.” 103 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,320 So I didn't grow up with that. 104 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,040 The hardest part in my job is caring for other kids 105 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,562 and having the responsibility of providing a safe environment 106 00:06:09,578 --> 00:06:10,578 for them. 107 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,600 It is hard. 108 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,840 I don't want to carry the responsibility 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,840 of losing a child’s life on my hand. 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,120 I don't think I could live with that, so... 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,840 I don't think nobody could, you know? 112 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,080 That must be really hard. 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,040 So when Zaïra would go to this daycare 114 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,080 what would the safety plan look like here? 115 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,600 We have trained for lockdowns and unsafe buildings 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,655 and stuff like that. 117 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 But an active shooter, we haven’t. 118 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,360 So that's why we wanted to get training. 119 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,880 And if you look, you know, at last year... 120 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Look at this, in 2022 121 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,840 not a single week passed 122 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,760 without at least four mass shooting events. 123 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,880 It's crazy. 124 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,440 And we say mass shooting, we’re talking about 125 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,640 four or more people that have been shot. 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,960 So that’s quite a few events. 127 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,040 You know, you can see, 646 mass shootings... 128 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,120 What is there, 365 days in a year? 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 So we're talking, what? About two a day? 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,560 That's numbers that we've never seen before. 131 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 But that's why this training has become so important. 132 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,960 And just as we prepare for fires and floods and tornadoes 133 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,278 and earthquakes. 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Sadly we’ve got to start thinking about this stuff, too. 135 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,480 So what we're going to talk about today is really... 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,440 I want the teachers to be the best they can be. 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Teaching the kids the proper way. 138 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,480 And you know, shaping those young minds. 139 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,520 I don't want them to be combat warriors. 140 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,640 That's not fair. They didn't sign up for that. 141 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,200 But when I saw the numbers and said 142 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,320 wow, less than half of early childhood programs 143 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,320 aren't prepared for an active shooter. 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,000 We’ve got to do something about that. 145 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,760 I don't want to minimize the impact 146 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,560 that you’re going to have as the initial responder. 147 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Because your actions or inactions... 148 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,160 are really going to set the stage on how this goes. 149 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,080 We’ve got a bunch of options here. 150 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,600 We’ve got running, we‘ve got hiding 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,840 we’ve got fighting. 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,480 And I can't tell you specifically 153 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,880 which options are going to be best 154 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,560 because the situation you're in might be very different. 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,320 You know, if you're in the infant room 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,920 your options are very different 157 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,880 than somebody that's working with a four or a five year old. 158 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,800 So sometimes hiding might be the best choice 159 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Sometimes running might be the best choice. 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,520 Sometimes, you're going to have no choice 161 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,160 but to defend yourself, right? 162 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 And we want to make sure that we practice those options 163 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,080 so that we become comfortable with them 164 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,095 and know what to do 165 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,000 in all sorts of different settings. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 So here they are: run, hide and fight. 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,440 So let's look at the run option. 168 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,400 So we’ve got everybody out in under 20 seconds 169 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,360 which is, you know, simply amazing. 170 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,240 - What do you think Ron? - Very, very fast. 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,576 Everybody did really, really well. 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,160 - Good job ladies. - Excellent, good job guys. 173 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Yay, Dante! 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,560 In terms of our hiding... 175 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,640 That's another option that we want to think about. 176 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Our objectives are to stay out of sight 177 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,640 to put some barricades up 178 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 to make it as hard as possible to get to us... 179 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,280 and to keep the kids as calm and as quiet as we possibly can. 180 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Now, the last part of the whole thing 181 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,280 is fighting if we have to. 182 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,720 We're really not just getting into a fair fight here. 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,440 We're trying to defend and survive. 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,240 But now we have to be thinking okay, if I'm in there... 185 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,654 And I'm trapped in there, I have no other way out. 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,720 What am I going to do? 187 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Well, I'm going to grab this, right? 188 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,920 You know, first thing that I can find. 189 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,960 What if somebody comes in? I can squirt them in the eyes. 190 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,840 I can maybe hit him over the head with this. 191 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760 I'm going to try to find anything that I can 192 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,000 to defend myself. 193 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 I just see those teachers standing there with like... 194 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,080 tools that they find, like blocks and stuff. 195 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 And I’m just wondering, how on earth 196 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,880 are they going to defend themselves 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 with somebody coming in with like a machine gun? 198 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:10,720 Well, I think there’s a couple different things 199 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,640 that we can, you know, think about. 200 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 A pair of scissors is obviously not going to be 201 00:11:14,712 --> 00:11:18,072 a very good weapon of choice against a machine gun. 202 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,600 But I’ve got to tell you, if I'm pinned in a room 203 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,280 and that's the only thing I have... 204 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,480 I'm going to make a go at it 205 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,560 because I don't want it to be easy, to kill me 206 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,360 I'm going to make it as difficult as possible 207 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,520 for that person. 208 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Maybe I can slow that person down. 209 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Maybe I can buy some time 210 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,000 so that others aren't killed or injured. 211 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,320 So that's kind of what the mentality sadly has to be. 212 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,640 When Andy and I leave here 213 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,760 we hope that you'll continue practicing this. 214 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,640 And not just do this like once 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,520 once a year or once in a while, but do this on a regular basis 216 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,240 so you're already ready to go. 217 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,600 Because practice is going to make us prepared. 218 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,960 And the more we practice 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,640 the better it's going to be for us during any emergency. 220 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,960 I don’t know how you, you do a drill with babies? 221 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 I don't know how that works, to be honest. 222 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:49,840 The drill that you guys saw... 223 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,120 are the kids involved in these drills? 224 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:54,640 Well, what we saw 225 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,040 was like a training for the teachers. 226 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Um, and so I think the teachers have to do that 227 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,639 with the kids a few times a year, 228 00:13:02,651 --> 00:13:04,120 but we didn't really see that. 229 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,480 And I also don't think that the kids realize it yet 230 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,640 at that young age. 231 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,160 But I am worried about when the kids get older... 232 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,400 So if we put Zaïra there, when she gets older 233 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,400 when she starts to realize what this is about 234 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,520 what it’s going to do to her. 235 00:13:29,561 --> 00:13:31,041 These sounds are clues for you 236 00:13:31,161 --> 00:13:32,921 to tune in and get somewhere safe. 237 00:13:33,041 --> 00:13:35,441 Excuse me. 238 00:13:35,601 --> 00:13:39,921 We will be talking about: “Staying quiet!” 239 00:13:41,281 --> 00:13:42,401 When we hear 240 00:13:42,681 --> 00:13:46,601 “Lock down, locks, lights out of sight.” 241 00:13:46,801 --> 00:13:50,001 We need to stay quiet in our hiding place. 242 00:13:50,641 --> 00:13:52,921 Look at this picture of a quiet mouth. 243 00:13:53,841 --> 00:13:57,241 What do you think it means to have a quiet mouth? 244 00:13:58,081 --> 00:13:59,801 Yes, Alice. 245 00:14:01,121 --> 00:14:03,281 It means you don't talk. 246 00:14:03,681 --> 00:14:04,761 Very good. 247 00:14:05,241 --> 00:14:07,441 It even means you don't whisper. 248 00:14:07,681 --> 00:14:09,121 What would you do... 249 00:14:09,321 --> 00:14:10,801 You're not in the classroom. 250 00:14:11,041 --> 00:14:12,721 You're not with another teacher. 251 00:14:13,001 --> 00:14:14,921 But maybe you're on the way to the bathroom. 252 00:14:15,041 --> 00:14:16,251 You're all by yourself. 253 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,200 And... 254 00:14:17,243 --> 00:14:20,321 You might hear an announcement that says: “run, hide, fight.” 255 00:14:20,441 --> 00:14:23,281 Or you might hear a noise that sounds like a weapon. 256 00:14:23,401 --> 00:14:24,521 Or maybe you see a bad guy. 257 00:14:24,641 --> 00:14:26,801 You're all by yourself in the hallway. 258 00:14:27,201 --> 00:14:29,081 What would you do in that situation? 259 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,521 If all the doors are closed 260 00:14:31,641 --> 00:14:33,361 except the one of the first graders 261 00:14:33,601 --> 00:14:35,841 - you can go in there. - That should be number one. 262 00:14:35,921 --> 00:14:39,761 But let's say that there is no way to go into another class 263 00:14:39,881 --> 00:14:42,561 because the doors are shut and they're locked. 264 00:14:42,681 --> 00:14:44,561 Or, there's just nobody else in here 265 00:14:44,681 --> 00:14:46,201 and you don’t know what to do. 266 00:14:46,521 --> 00:14:48,681 You can hide somewhere on the playground, okay? 267 00:14:48,801 --> 00:14:50,961 Schools are a very safe place to be. 268 00:14:51,121 --> 00:14:52,320 You're safe here. 269 00:15:22,841 --> 00:15:23,841 Last summer 270 00:15:24,001 --> 00:15:27,561 when I found out about the school shooting 271 00:15:27,681 --> 00:15:30,241 at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas 272 00:15:30,961 --> 00:15:33,121 I was so devastated by the news 273 00:15:33,281 --> 00:15:35,241 that another school shooting had happened. 274 00:15:38,401 --> 00:15:40,641 Every day that I walk my children to school 275 00:15:40,801 --> 00:15:43,241 I say, I love you, and I watch them. 276 00:15:43,801 --> 00:15:45,401 And just breathe 277 00:15:45,521 --> 00:15:48,401 because that’s all I can do, and hope that... 278 00:15:49,161 --> 00:15:50,761 everyone is doing their job 279 00:15:50,881 --> 00:15:52,441 to protect them. 280 00:15:58,121 --> 00:16:00,921 I'm doing my job to try and raise awareness 281 00:16:01,041 --> 00:16:02,601 change the conversation 282 00:16:02,721 --> 00:16:05,041 support people who are changing the conversation 283 00:16:05,168 --> 00:16:06,768 because I don't have all the answers. 284 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Welcome to this service, mourning those who have died 285 00:16:09,921 --> 00:16:11,161 from gun violence. 286 00:16:11,521 --> 00:16:13,561 This afternoon we’ll be reading the known names 287 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:18,441 of those who have died in Harris County, during 2022 288 00:16:18,601 --> 00:16:19,721 from gun violence. 289 00:16:39,721 --> 00:16:41,681 Today we are remembering 290 00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:44,521 Texas gun violence victims. 291 00:16:49,881 --> 00:16:51,721 It's too many. 292 00:17:05,801 --> 00:17:08,881 And thinking about our children 293 00:17:09,121 --> 00:17:11,241 who are being put in the line of fire. 294 00:17:14,081 --> 00:17:15,081 Who are 295 00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:17,001 being called to action 296 00:17:17,121 --> 00:17:18,841 as if they were in military service 297 00:17:18,961 --> 00:17:21,961 without choice and without protection. 298 00:17:29,521 --> 00:17:31,241 You did 21 laps? 299 00:17:32,001 --> 00:17:34,001 - Nice. - And I forced my ankle. 300 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,121 Well, maybe that's why your ankle hurts. 301 00:17:39,441 --> 00:17:40,601 How was the rest of your lunch? 302 00:17:40,721 --> 00:17:42,601 I'm sorry I could only stay for a few minutes. 303 00:17:45,321 --> 00:17:46,401 All right. 304 00:17:46,521 --> 00:17:48,561 You guys in Lego world now? 305 00:17:58,361 --> 00:18:00,401 When I was researching the project 306 00:18:00,521 --> 00:18:03,241 I thought about 307 00:18:03,361 --> 00:18:06,281 how our children are essentially 308 00:18:06,401 --> 00:18:08,721 playing war games at school. 309 00:18:12,601 --> 00:18:15,601 Whether they want to or not, that this is their life. 310 00:18:15,721 --> 00:18:18,841 And they’re having to do these active shooter drills 311 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,222 and lockdowns. 312 00:18:20,521 --> 00:18:22,081 and they're playing 313 00:18:22,361 --> 00:18:23,521 war games. 314 00:18:25,201 --> 00:18:26,921 What happens during your drills? 315 00:18:27,241 --> 00:18:29,121 Mommy doesn't know what you guys do? 316 00:18:29,921 --> 00:18:32,001 Well, for the lockdown drills... 317 00:18:33,241 --> 00:18:36,201 The principal will say on the announcement 318 00:18:36,361 --> 00:18:38,961 “It's a lockdown drill. Lock your doors.” 319 00:18:39,081 --> 00:18:42,321 And we hide behind our shelves. 320 00:18:43,801 --> 00:18:45,361 But we can't do anything else. 321 00:18:45,481 --> 00:18:47,281 Sometimes whenever we do the drills 322 00:18:47,401 --> 00:18:49,921 no one ever tells us. Our teachers don’t tell us 323 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:52,801 if it's a real one or just practice. 324 00:18:53,041 --> 00:18:56,881 So I get scared sometimes to see if it's real 325 00:18:57,241 --> 00:18:59,881 or if it's just a drill. 326 00:19:00,801 --> 00:19:03,801 And if we don't get up 327 00:19:04,121 --> 00:19:06,761 and scoot our chairs quietly 328 00:19:06,881 --> 00:19:09,481 and we're loud, we start over 329 00:19:09,601 --> 00:19:12,401 and do it again until we can make it good. 330 00:19:13,161 --> 00:19:15,321 - You want to show me? - Uh huh. 331 00:19:15,441 --> 00:19:17,401 All right, say the drill. 332 00:19:18,161 --> 00:19:19,881 Teachers, lock your doors. 333 00:19:20,041 --> 00:19:21,561 Teachers, lock your doors. 334 00:19:21,801 --> 00:19:22,921 This is a lockdown. 335 00:19:37,681 --> 00:19:39,201 My daughter said that 336 00:19:39,401 --> 00:19:41,161 it helps her to prepare. 337 00:19:42,241 --> 00:19:44,161 And that makes me so sad... 338 00:19:45,321 --> 00:19:48,961 to think that she has to prepare for such an event. 339 00:20:05,721 --> 00:20:07,241 - Hi, nice to meet you. - Hi. 340 00:20:07,361 --> 00:20:08,441 Thanks for being with us. 341 00:20:08,521 --> 00:20:09,841 No problem. 342 00:20:10,004 --> 00:20:13,444 I'm a professor of public health in New Mexico State University. 343 00:20:13,886 --> 00:20:17,926 My research has focused on how schools are preparing. 344 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,880 And what would they do in certain situations. 345 00:20:27,961 --> 00:20:29,921 So most schools in your neighborhood 346 00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:32,721 my neighborhood, have security cameras 347 00:20:32,841 --> 00:20:34,942 backpack checks, metal detectors, 348 00:20:34,954 --> 00:20:36,881 locked doors, a lockdown drill 349 00:20:37,001 --> 00:20:39,161 preparing students for a mass shooting. 350 00:20:42,601 --> 00:20:43,881 This is a drill. 351 00:20:44,001 --> 00:20:46,321 I repeat, this is a drill. 352 00:20:46,441 --> 00:20:49,001 We are in a level three lockdown. 353 00:20:51,201 --> 00:20:52,441 The problem is... 354 00:20:52,481 --> 00:20:55,081 they have not been able to stop a mass shooting. 355 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:58,001 Get into the closet. Go in the closet. 356 00:20:58,121 --> 00:21:00,321 Turn the light on, until we get in there. 357 00:21:04,521 --> 00:21:06,361 Let's go, get the chairs up there. Let's go. 358 00:21:06,441 --> 00:21:08,081 The rest of you, get in the closet. 359 00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:09,260 Let's go. 360 00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:11,241 Get in the closet! 361 00:21:12,921 --> 00:21:15,321 There is no documented evidence 362 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,121 that we could stop a mass shooting 363 00:21:17,241 --> 00:21:19,521 with this kind of an approach. 364 00:21:19,961 --> 00:21:21,361 You're quiet. 365 00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:24,321 Keep your hands to yourself. 366 00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:30,241 And that’s a typical American school now. 367 00:21:30,361 --> 00:21:31,961 It has become a war zone. 368 00:21:32,081 --> 00:21:32,961 No one is asking 369 00:21:33,081 --> 00:21:35,841 is this conducive to learning? Education? 370 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:42,881 Why are we creating this climate of fear? 371 00:21:43,401 --> 00:21:44,921 A palace, a fortress. 372 00:21:45,041 --> 00:21:46,721 No place in the world would you see this 373 00:21:46,841 --> 00:21:48,281 in a developed nation. 374 00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:54,881 There are studies to show that kids have felt vulnerable 375 00:21:55,001 --> 00:21:57,441 and distressed because of these exposures. 376 00:21:57,561 --> 00:22:00,321 And that's why the whole idea has become controversial. 377 00:22:09,201 --> 00:22:11,161 We have fire drills 378 00:22:11,281 --> 00:22:14,481 lockdown, tornado, earthquake. 379 00:22:14,721 --> 00:22:17,241 Our last drill, a lockdown drill 380 00:22:17,361 --> 00:22:18,721 we did like, a full thing. 381 00:22:18,841 --> 00:22:22,161 We ripped apart the room, we grabbed tables 382 00:22:22,601 --> 00:22:25,841 and we shoved it at the door like it was real. 383 00:22:26,001 --> 00:22:29,161 All the kids were scared and... 384 00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:33,161 I was scared because the mic did not say “lockdown drill” 385 00:22:33,281 --> 00:22:34,801 or I didn't hear it. 386 00:22:35,121 --> 00:22:37,161 So I thought it was a real lockdown. 387 00:22:37,281 --> 00:22:39,561 I was trying my best to hide 388 00:22:40,041 --> 00:22:44,081 and it made me a little scared and nervous because... 389 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,120 I didn't... 390 00:22:46,161 --> 00:22:48,161 I didn't feel safe at school. 391 00:22:48,281 --> 00:22:50,801 Nobody feels safe. 392 00:22:51,281 --> 00:22:53,281 Nobody feels safe at school. 393 00:22:53,441 --> 00:22:55,681 It's never really safe. 394 00:22:55,801 --> 00:22:59,241 I don’t know, it's not really safe sometimes. 395 00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,881 I think it'll probably happen in our school 396 00:23:04,001 --> 00:23:07,641 because people sometimes go insane 397 00:23:08,161 --> 00:23:09,561 and they might want to 398 00:23:09,841 --> 00:23:12,441 like, take their anger out on kids. 399 00:23:12,561 --> 00:23:15,401 So they might want to come to our school 400 00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:17,961 and might take their anger out on them, by killing us. 401 00:23:18,081 --> 00:23:19,321 Maybe. 402 00:23:21,321 --> 00:23:23,401 I don’t... I really don't like it because 403 00:23:23,521 --> 00:23:25,401 there's a lot of bad people in the world. 404 00:23:25,881 --> 00:23:28,961 Yeah, we try not to think about it too much or else we... 405 00:23:29,081 --> 00:23:30,561 We kind of get like... 406 00:23:30,681 --> 00:23:33,201 - Like, thinking about it. - Nervous. 407 00:23:33,321 --> 00:23:35,206 Kind of like “Oh a school shooting 408 00:23:35,218 --> 00:23:36,681 is going to happen today”. 409 00:23:37,081 --> 00:23:39,641 That's not something that you want to think about, right? 410 00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:41,081 No... 411 00:23:52,601 --> 00:23:55,641 I think that, some of the teachers 412 00:23:55,881 --> 00:23:58,761 should have, like um, a pistol or something 413 00:23:58,881 --> 00:24:01,921 hidden in the classroom to protect the students. 414 00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:03,881 Yeah, I think that too. 415 00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:05,521 Because, um... 416 00:24:06,241 --> 00:24:07,921 Because if the person does have a gun 417 00:24:08,041 --> 00:24:11,241 it would be nice to have some protection. 418 00:24:11,361 --> 00:24:17,481 Like 22 rifles, 22 long rifles. At least a BB gun for our class. 419 00:24:17,641 --> 00:24:19,761 For every single class. 420 00:24:19,881 --> 00:24:22,881 It would cost a little bit, but... 421 00:24:23,241 --> 00:24:25,881 it would be worth it for the school. 422 00:24:26,041 --> 00:24:28,721 - For keeping the students safe. - Yeah. 423 00:24:46,121 --> 00:24:47,521 It will cost a little bit 424 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040 but it would keep the students safe. 425 00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:56,121 I wonder if my daughter will feel the same. 426 00:24:57,481 --> 00:24:58,601 When I was a kid 427 00:24:58,721 --> 00:25:00,481 this never crossed my mind. 428 00:25:03,441 --> 00:25:06,481 But I guess things were different back then. 429 00:25:07,281 --> 00:25:09,481 And this is America. 430 00:25:24,481 --> 00:25:26,841 The first year we moved here 431 00:25:27,121 --> 00:25:31,041 we killed 38 rattlesnakes just on this road. 432 00:25:32,401 --> 00:25:35,361 And now we might see three or four a year. 433 00:25:56,601 --> 00:25:59,401 I was a high school teacher, for 20 years. 434 00:26:00,921 --> 00:26:02,681 You started hearing of school shootings 435 00:26:02,801 --> 00:26:04,521 and I would think what I would do. 436 00:26:04,641 --> 00:26:06,201 I didn't want to... 437 00:26:06,441 --> 00:26:09,321 watch something happen, or be a victim. 438 00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:10,641 I wanted to be proactive. 439 00:26:10,761 --> 00:26:13,081 I remember coming home from school 440 00:26:13,241 --> 00:26:16,921 and talking to Jeff all the time about different scenarios. 441 00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:18,001 What would I do if this happened? 442 00:26:18,121 --> 00:26:19,096 What would I do if that happened? 443 00:26:19,121 --> 00:26:20,241 I want to protect my kids. 444 00:26:24,081 --> 00:26:27,041 So, we were able to collaborate together 445 00:26:27,161 --> 00:26:30,161 and come up with a good system that would work for teachers. 446 00:26:33,841 --> 00:26:36,681 The point of this is to have trained guardians. 447 00:26:36,801 --> 00:26:40,521 You can put signs on your school that say, “we have armed staff”. 448 00:26:40,546 --> 00:26:41,616 And that's a deterrent. 449 00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:43,441 You're making the school a hard target 450 00:26:43,521 --> 00:26:45,761 so somebody is not going to want to breach that. 451 00:26:45,881 --> 00:26:48,161 And that's the number one goal of the Guardian Program. 452 00:26:48,281 --> 00:26:51,281 The number two goal would be to actually use deadly force 453 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:52,961 in the event that there's a shooter. 454 00:26:59,121 --> 00:27:01,801 So an important component about the school Guardians 455 00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:03,201 is they're armed. 456 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,496 A lot of people think 457 00:27:10,521 --> 00:27:11,921 we're just giving guns to teachers. 458 00:27:12,041 --> 00:27:13,544 And that’s not it. 459 00:27:15,041 --> 00:27:18,641 So part of our training includes scenario training on the campus. 460 00:27:24,801 --> 00:27:27,201 So we have someone that's a bad guy. 461 00:27:27,441 --> 00:27:30,121 We actually put the Guardian staff 462 00:27:30,241 --> 00:27:31,841 in a shooting situation 463 00:27:33,001 --> 00:27:34,481 where they have to defend themselves 464 00:27:34,601 --> 00:27:36,001 or, take out the shooter. 465 00:27:39,641 --> 00:27:41,961 And that's as close to realistic 466 00:27:42,081 --> 00:27:43,441 as we can make it. 467 00:27:45,601 --> 00:27:48,801 It's not just for teachers, it’s for all school staff. 468 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:55,721 Administration, maintenance, IT and stuff like that. 469 00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:58,841 Most of those people are what we call “seekers”. 470 00:28:00,881 --> 00:28:02,761 So if there's actually a threat on campus 471 00:28:02,881 --> 00:28:04,161 they would seek the threat 472 00:28:04,281 --> 00:28:05,370 to stop it. 473 00:28:08,641 --> 00:28:10,881 And then we have what we call “classroom defenders” 474 00:28:11,001 --> 00:28:12,641 like what Terry would have been. 475 00:28:12,881 --> 00:28:15,321 We don't ever tell a teacher to leave their classroom. 476 00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:16,481 They need to stay with their kids. 477 00:28:16,601 --> 00:28:18,681 So if the shooter happened to come in that room 478 00:28:18,801 --> 00:28:20,601 then they can defend that classroom. 479 00:28:20,721 --> 00:28:23,201 So there's really two types of Guardians that we look at. 480 00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:29,601 Based on history 481 00:28:29,721 --> 00:28:32,481 a shooter has some tie to the school. 482 00:28:33,601 --> 00:28:36,721 So you have to prepare yourself as much as possible 483 00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:38,681 and not think of that student 484 00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,281 as a student, but as a killer. 485 00:28:50,641 --> 00:28:53,161 We tell them that if you do have to use 486 00:28:53,281 --> 00:28:55,081 deadly force to stop a shooter 487 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:56,961 you're never going to be the same. 488 00:28:58,761 --> 00:29:00,081 And the opposite is true. 489 00:29:00,161 --> 00:29:03,121 What if I did not have my handgun 490 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:06,201 and let's say ten people were killed? 491 00:29:06,321 --> 00:29:09,561 So that guilt is also going to weigh on that person 492 00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,321 for the rest of their lives. 493 00:29:19,121 --> 00:29:20,721 - Here's your weapon. - Thanks. 494 00:29:20,841 --> 00:29:22,641 Here's your sword. 495 00:29:23,481 --> 00:29:24,801 Okay, here we go. 496 00:29:39,641 --> 00:29:41,641 I have to say that um... 497 00:29:42,801 --> 00:29:45,561 The thought of this happening in my daughter's school.... 498 00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:49,201 - Yeah, it’s scary. - It scares me. 499 00:29:49,321 --> 00:29:50,521 It is. 500 00:29:50,641 --> 00:29:52,001 It's frightening. 501 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,200 Yeah. 502 00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:54,321 Most of our people that go through that 503 00:29:54,441 --> 00:29:55,721 it's pretty emotional. 504 00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:57,321 Because it's on their home campus. 505 00:29:57,441 --> 00:29:58,721 It's their turf. 506 00:29:58,841 --> 00:30:01,041 Do you feel like this can be traumatizing to teachers? 507 00:30:01,161 --> 00:30:02,481 Just going through the training? 508 00:30:02,841 --> 00:30:05,601 Um, I think the scenario training can be to a point. 509 00:30:05,801 --> 00:30:07,601 I don't think it gets to the point where 510 00:30:07,721 --> 00:30:08,961 it's going to cause them problems. 511 00:30:09,081 --> 00:30:10,201 But I think it's going to 512 00:30:10,321 --> 00:30:12,561 help them face the reality of, if this happens 513 00:30:12,681 --> 00:30:13,961 this is what it's going to be like. 514 00:30:15,321 --> 00:30:17,601 And during that time, we have had some people 515 00:30:17,721 --> 00:30:19,761 that we've had to expel from the program 516 00:30:19,881 --> 00:30:20,961 or excuse from the program 517 00:30:21,081 --> 00:30:22,641 expel is a horrible word 518 00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:25,161 because at that point they didn't have... 519 00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,321 they're not going to be able to defend against a threat. 520 00:30:27,441 --> 00:30:28,881 They're probably going to become a victim. 521 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,896 And it's just... 522 00:30:29,921 --> 00:30:31,481 Not everybody can do this. 523 00:30:35,761 --> 00:30:38,761 How did it feel for you as a teacher carrying a gun? 524 00:30:39,161 --> 00:30:42,361 I would say it did raise my level of confidence 525 00:30:42,481 --> 00:30:43,681 and security. 526 00:30:44,081 --> 00:30:47,361 And I even told my students, when I would introduce myself 527 00:30:47,481 --> 00:30:48,561 and we would start the school year 528 00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:50,201 I would say, “I just want you to know 529 00:30:50,321 --> 00:30:53,081 that no matter what happens I’ll protect you with my life.” 530 00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:56,281 “I'm here for you in every aspect, not just education.” 531 00:30:56,441 --> 00:30:57,521 And, um... 532 00:30:57,841 --> 00:30:59,365 You know, it's just the care that you have for your students. 533 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,520 It's natural. 534 00:31:00,561 --> 00:31:02,841 By the way, they voted her “best teacher of the year”. 535 00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:04,256 after that. 536 00:31:20,121 --> 00:31:22,041 A lot of people have a tendency to do this. 537 00:31:22,161 --> 00:31:23,641 They drop their firearm. 538 00:31:23,761 --> 00:31:26,641 But when you're in combat, this is combat 539 00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:28,281 you're going to lean out. 540 00:31:28,401 --> 00:31:29,601 Okay. Just a little bit. 541 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:32,641 You're trying not to expose the rest of your body 542 00:31:32,761 --> 00:31:35,761 because this is a target area for the bad guy. 543 00:31:35,881 --> 00:31:38,121 I think it's interesting that you say, “this is combat”. 544 00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:41,121 And I'm talking specifically about schools. 545 00:31:41,241 --> 00:31:43,961 - You refer to it as... - Well, it’s combat training. 546 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,960 That's what it is. 547 00:31:44,983 --> 00:31:48,401 A lot of this training, it comes from my experience 548 00:31:48,521 --> 00:31:50,201 other law enforcement officers’ experience. 549 00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:52,001 Military experience. 550 00:31:53,241 --> 00:31:55,801 And it's, the way it's been described 551 00:31:55,921 --> 00:31:58,841 and the way we describe it, because we want it to be bold 552 00:31:58,841 --> 00:31:59,921 is combat training. 553 00:32:00,041 --> 00:32:01,321 You are in combat 554 00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:03,001 against someone who's trying to kill you. 555 00:32:03,201 --> 00:32:05,801 The only other place that you see a situation like this 556 00:32:05,961 --> 00:32:08,201 is on the battlefield, in a war. 557 00:32:30,681 --> 00:32:33,681 We're not prepared for combat. 558 00:32:35,001 --> 00:32:36,681 Do we have tools 559 00:32:37,881 --> 00:32:40,201 to combat 560 00:32:41,321 --> 00:32:42,441 an event? 561 00:32:42,641 --> 00:32:43,681 Yes. 562 00:32:45,201 --> 00:32:48,201 But we're not laying siege on anything. 563 00:32:49,841 --> 00:32:52,561 We're not going to war. 564 00:32:53,601 --> 00:32:55,881 We're going to protect. 565 00:32:56,841 --> 00:32:59,201 So it's not combat... 566 00:32:59,761 --> 00:33:01,521 it’s protection. 567 00:33:01,921 --> 00:33:04,921 I don't know any educator 568 00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:09,401 that wants to do this. 569 00:33:09,761 --> 00:33:11,521 I don't want to have to have... 570 00:33:11,641 --> 00:33:14,001 I don't want to have to carry a gun. 571 00:33:14,121 --> 00:33:17,161 I don't want to have to have a bulletproof vest. 572 00:33:17,641 --> 00:33:20,041 I don’t want to have to have any of that. 573 00:33:21,641 --> 00:33:24,441 But the times in which we live... 574 00:33:25,641 --> 00:33:28,001 are dictating that. 575 00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:32,121 And so like everything else, we evolve. 576 00:33:34,161 --> 00:33:37,361 And that's what we've done. 577 00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:43,641 And as a result of that, we now have AR-15’s 578 00:33:44,321 --> 00:33:47,401 as part of our weaponry 579 00:33:47,521 --> 00:33:49,041 that we have here on school 580 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:51,321 stored in safes throughout the campus. 581 00:33:54,281 --> 00:33:56,601 It's just another tool. 582 00:33:56,721 --> 00:33:58,881 And so it’s just one other deterrent that we have 583 00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:01,521 in case the bad guys want to do bad things. 584 00:34:12,841 --> 00:34:15,241 In small towns, there are some limitations. 585 00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,961 We have no local police department. 586 00:34:18,081 --> 00:34:19,601 Our local sheriff's department... 587 00:34:19,721 --> 00:34:23,201 The office is a minimum of 15 minutes away. 588 00:34:24,441 --> 00:34:26,721 Even if they're running with their sirens on 589 00:34:27,241 --> 00:34:29,361 it's going to take time. 590 00:34:29,481 --> 00:34:32,801 So why do we give someone with bad intentions 591 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,016 more time? 592 00:34:34,041 --> 00:34:35,561 You know, we will have 593 00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:38,201 in essence, our own police force 594 00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:41,601 our teachers, that choose to be armed. 595 00:34:41,721 --> 00:34:44,761 Because my teachers will be closer to the action 596 00:34:45,481 --> 00:34:47,361 than anyone else would be. 597 00:34:48,281 --> 00:34:51,521 Did you ever have any outside threats 598 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:52,801 like, did something ever happen? 599 00:34:52,921 --> 00:34:55,441 When I first got here in 2014 600 00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:58,041 I actually had a teacher 601 00:34:58,161 --> 00:35:01,401 go into a diabetic state. 602 00:35:01,801 --> 00:35:04,801 He grabbed a gun and fired two shots. 603 00:35:05,201 --> 00:35:06,241 And here I am. 604 00:35:06,361 --> 00:35:09,161 I'm running after somebody that has a gun 605 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:10,761 trying to figure out what's going on. 606 00:35:10,841 --> 00:35:11,961 And I'm like, you know 607 00:35:12,081 --> 00:35:14,201 there's something not quite right here. 608 00:35:14,481 --> 00:35:17,601 I'm running unarmed, towards a guy that is armed. 609 00:35:17,881 --> 00:35:19,641 And I'm just like, okay. 610 00:35:19,761 --> 00:35:21,561 And when we found him, he was passed out 611 00:35:21,561 --> 00:35:24,921 and we had EMT, shortly afterwards and stuff. 612 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:28,721 And sure enough, it was very low insulin. 613 00:35:28,841 --> 00:35:31,961 And he was... He wound up being okay 614 00:35:32,201 --> 00:35:35,121 But, he didn't teach at Fayetteville ISD 615 00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,241 for much longer after that. 616 00:35:40,281 --> 00:35:41,561 - Can I ask another question? - Yeah. 617 00:35:41,681 --> 00:35:43,481 Isn’t it kind of funny, that... 618 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:44,840 The... 619 00:35:46,841 --> 00:35:51,321 The thing that got you into giving guns to teachers 620 00:35:51,681 --> 00:35:54,321 was actually a teacher with a gun? 621 00:35:54,441 --> 00:35:55,841 You know what? 622 00:35:57,281 --> 00:35:59,121 I really never thought of it that way. 623 00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:02,241 But yes, it is. It is a very interesting concept. 624 00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:05,721 And, you know, I do... 625 00:36:06,441 --> 00:36:08,841 see kind of the, you know 626 00:36:09,641 --> 00:36:11,161 kind of the backwards thinking on that now. 627 00:36:11,281 --> 00:36:13,441 So thank you for pointing that out. 628 00:36:14,321 --> 00:36:16,841 But yet at the same time, you know... 629 00:36:17,481 --> 00:36:19,641 You know, it's not fun. 630 00:36:19,761 --> 00:36:22,001 It's not something we want to do. 631 00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:25,281 But I think it's creating awareness 632 00:36:25,481 --> 00:36:29,241 and I think it's creating, giving kids an understanding of 633 00:36:29,561 --> 00:36:30,961 hey, I'm going to be protected 634 00:36:31,081 --> 00:36:32,841 because these people care about me. 635 00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,841 Guns are the leading cause of death 636 00:36:56,961 --> 00:36:58,841 among children in the United States. 637 00:37:00,801 --> 00:37:02,281 4000 children 638 00:37:02,401 --> 00:37:05,041 will die of guns this year in the United States. 639 00:37:05,201 --> 00:37:06,423 Wow. 640 00:37:06,681 --> 00:37:09,761 - That's a very sad number. - That's a very sad number. 641 00:37:12,081 --> 00:37:15,441 It’s a billion dollar industry to make schools safer. 642 00:37:15,961 --> 00:37:18,321 But it's a false sense of security. 643 00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,121 The fact remains that most of the children 644 00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:22,881 who die of guns in the United States 645 00:37:23,001 --> 00:37:24,481 die away from the school. 646 00:37:27,081 --> 00:37:28,561 They're dying in the community 647 00:37:28,681 --> 00:37:30,681 on the streets, in the household. 648 00:37:30,801 --> 00:37:33,121 And so we have our priorities misplaced. 649 00:37:33,561 --> 00:37:34,872 We react in the wrong places, 650 00:37:34,884 --> 00:37:36,481 and then we have this blame game. 651 00:37:36,801 --> 00:37:40,281 We blame Democrats, Republicans, immigration, 652 00:37:40,401 --> 00:37:43,401 criminals, mental illness, too many guns. 653 00:37:43,841 --> 00:37:45,681 Everything comes into play. 654 00:37:45,801 --> 00:37:47,281 We have a great divide as a nation 655 00:37:47,401 --> 00:37:48,601 on what should we do? 656 00:37:53,081 --> 00:37:54,521 I don't really see... 657 00:37:55,761 --> 00:37:58,601 how guns could help us feel more safe. 658 00:37:58,881 --> 00:38:00,081 I've never... 659 00:38:00,801 --> 00:38:04,521 until recently thought that I needed to protect my house. 660 00:38:04,641 --> 00:38:07,481 Only, like during the pandemic did I start thinking 661 00:38:07,601 --> 00:38:09,561 oh, maybe I need a gun for protection. 662 00:38:09,681 --> 00:38:11,761 You know, because of the uncertainty 663 00:38:11,881 --> 00:38:13,241 with everything that was going on. 664 00:38:13,361 --> 00:38:16,081 I always thought of just having a shotgun. 665 00:38:16,201 --> 00:38:18,641 Do you really think that if somebody breaks into the house 666 00:38:18,761 --> 00:38:20,161 that you're going to shoot him? 667 00:38:20,521 --> 00:38:21,921 I would shoot him in the legs. 668 00:38:22,161 --> 00:38:24,481 Like, if some crazy guy breaks in here? 669 00:38:24,601 --> 00:38:25,933 Right... 670 00:38:28,721 --> 00:38:32,001 Trust me, I would not be trying to shoot anybody. 671 00:38:32,121 --> 00:38:33,721 No, but that's what everybody says, right? 672 00:38:33,841 --> 00:38:35,521 It's just for the bad guy. 673 00:38:36,441 --> 00:38:38,241 - You know, it’s just.. - I’m just trying to understand. 674 00:38:38,361 --> 00:38:41,281 It's for your, your mental, you know... 675 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,440 well-being. 676 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,496 It makes you feel better. 677 00:38:44,521 --> 00:38:45,841 But, yeah. 678 00:38:46,681 --> 00:38:48,761 It doesn't always work. 679 00:38:48,881 --> 00:38:49,881 Obviously. 680 00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:53,481 But, it makes you feel better. 681 00:38:53,601 --> 00:38:55,081 Yeah. Okay. 682 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,176 That's why people do it. 683 00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:57,761 Because they feel that they're afraid. 684 00:38:57,881 --> 00:38:59,161 That's what this country is all about. 685 00:38:59,281 --> 00:39:01,041 - Being afraid. - Right. 686 00:39:01,161 --> 00:39:03,401 You know, we're all afraid so we feel like we have to... 687 00:39:03,521 --> 00:39:04,921 So do you feel afraid then? 688 00:39:05,961 --> 00:39:07,561 - In this country? - Yeah. 689 00:39:07,681 --> 00:39:10,121 Like there's a lot of violence in this country. 690 00:39:10,241 --> 00:39:12,801 It happens everywhere, all the time, so... 691 00:39:14,041 --> 00:39:16,681 I don't know, sometimes, you know, I think about it. 692 00:39:16,801 --> 00:39:19,361 It's a possibility. It could happen to anyone. 693 00:39:19,481 --> 00:39:22,121 And that's a problem. 694 00:39:22,241 --> 00:39:23,533 You know. 695 00:39:23,681 --> 00:39:26,481 That people think that they need a gun? 696 00:39:26,601 --> 00:39:28,121 That's a problem? 697 00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:29,361 Yeah. Yeah. 698 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,480 And that there are guns everywhere. 699 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,485 So it's like 700 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:33,841 well, everybody else has a gun, so I better get a gun. 701 00:39:34,281 --> 00:39:35,441 - When does it end? - Yeah. 702 00:39:37,321 --> 00:39:38,561 Sometimes I wonder 703 00:39:38,681 --> 00:39:40,681 if we should raise Zaïra here at all. 704 00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:42,201 Yeah. 705 00:39:42,841 --> 00:39:44,601 That's how I feel. 706 00:39:53,841 --> 00:39:55,721 You're safe now. 707 00:39:59,281 --> 00:40:02,681 You're in a safe space, you’re in a safe place now. 708 00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:09,201 So let's begin on an inhale 709 00:40:09,361 --> 00:40:11,201 with a count to four. 710 00:40:12,681 --> 00:40:15,961 One, two, three, four... 711 00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:18,161 And hold it there. 712 00:40:18,281 --> 00:40:22,161 One, two, three, four 713 00:40:22,481 --> 00:40:26,401 five, six, seven, and exhale. 714 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,840 Release 715 00:40:27,881 --> 00:40:30,641 two, three, four 716 00:40:31,041 --> 00:40:34,841 five, six, seven, eight. 717 00:40:35,601 --> 00:40:37,481 So let's just ground. 718 00:40:37,921 --> 00:40:40,681 Just notice your feet rooted to the floor. 719 00:40:40,801 --> 00:40:45,081 Notice the seat supporting you where you're sitting. 720 00:40:45,681 --> 00:40:46,981 Uvalde... 721 00:40:47,761 --> 00:40:49,921 was a vicarious trauma 722 00:40:50,041 --> 00:40:53,041 that everyone in Texas experienced. 723 00:40:53,921 --> 00:40:56,841 How do we as a collective heal 724 00:40:57,001 --> 00:41:00,481 from traumatic experience, right? 725 00:41:00,801 --> 00:41:02,881 When something traumatic happens 726 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,200 we withdraw. 727 00:41:04,241 --> 00:41:08,521 But then the other response is to kind of attack it 728 00:41:08,601 --> 00:41:10,681 or create like a... 729 00:41:11,881 --> 00:41:14,001 make it into the, like the bad guy, like... 730 00:41:14,121 --> 00:41:17,481 We’re fighting against this big thing, right? 731 00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:20,081 We're going to assault it back and we’re going to kill it. 732 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960 We're going to make it go, right? 733 00:41:22,601 --> 00:41:27,841 And so I think that can create more stress and fear. 734 00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:31,841 One of the things that came out of the extreme fear is 735 00:41:32,121 --> 00:41:34,161 drills in all public schools. 736 00:41:47,881 --> 00:41:51,761 In my son's former school, during a lockdown drill 737 00:41:52,361 --> 00:41:54,001 one of the teachers in the building 738 00:41:54,121 --> 00:41:56,121 had forgotten to close her door. 739 00:41:57,641 --> 00:42:00,681 And as the principal went around to check all of the doors 740 00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:03,361 and that they were following all of their protocols... 741 00:42:04,281 --> 00:42:06,921 He came upon her open door 742 00:42:07,281 --> 00:42:09,761 and he entered into the room 743 00:42:09,881 --> 00:42:11,601 and he went, “Bang bang bang bang!” 744 00:42:11,721 --> 00:42:14,841 “You would be dead because you didn't close this door.” 745 00:42:14,961 --> 00:42:17,481 “Don't ever make that mistake again.” 746 00:42:17,561 --> 00:42:20,001 You know, which is fear and threat. 747 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880 My daughter... 748 00:42:51,921 --> 00:42:55,201 she did participate in shooter drills at school. 749 00:42:55,721 --> 00:42:57,161 She seemed to handle it fine 750 00:42:57,281 --> 00:42:59,321 but her peers were really scared. 751 00:43:00,401 --> 00:43:04,481 One of the things I think she learned from a peer was 752 00:43:04,601 --> 00:43:06,601 she was three years old, and she would come home 753 00:43:06,721 --> 00:43:09,521 and you know, talk to me while I'm putting her to bed 754 00:43:09,641 --> 00:43:11,001 about how 755 00:43:11,161 --> 00:43:12,721 “If a bad guy would try to mess with me 756 00:43:12,841 --> 00:43:15,921 I would just beat him up. And I would get him.” 757 00:43:16,321 --> 00:43:19,801 So to hear that kind of talk from a three year old... 758 00:43:19,921 --> 00:43:23,081 I was just like, why are you thinking about this? 759 00:43:38,281 --> 00:43:40,321 It thinks I’m a bad guy. 760 00:43:40,761 --> 00:43:42,521 Oh, ok. It sees me. 761 00:43:43,681 --> 00:43:44,881 They’re coming. 762 00:43:52,121 --> 00:43:55,041 I do want the schools, to be prepared 763 00:43:55,161 --> 00:43:58,241 in the event of something catastrophic happening. 764 00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,521 And at the same time, I don't want my child 765 00:44:01,641 --> 00:44:03,481 to feel like they're under threat. 766 00:44:03,601 --> 00:44:05,241 I want them to feel safe. 767 00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:19,521 Like all parents, I want my kid to feel safe. 768 00:44:20,841 --> 00:44:22,641 But what does that mean? 769 00:44:23,241 --> 00:44:24,561 Hey pumpkin. 770 00:44:24,761 --> 00:44:25,881 Want to see my stethoscope? 771 00:44:26,001 --> 00:44:27,121 Oh, what is that? 772 00:44:27,481 --> 00:44:28,801 Stories of gun violence 773 00:44:28,881 --> 00:44:30,801 have become a part of my everyday life 774 00:44:30,881 --> 00:44:32,841 in the most unexpected places. 775 00:44:33,201 --> 00:44:35,681 Can we listen to your heartbeat? 776 00:44:36,081 --> 00:44:37,361 Oh, there we go. 777 00:44:39,321 --> 00:44:41,361 In stores, at playgrounds 778 00:44:41,481 --> 00:44:43,601 even at our pediatrician's office. 779 00:44:45,601 --> 00:44:48,121 Although if she starts daycare, we'll see you sooner, right. 780 00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:49,681 So we do expect the average kid in daycare 781 00:44:49,801 --> 00:44:51,921 to get about seven to ten colds a year. 782 00:44:51,946 --> 00:44:52,776 Oh wow. 783 00:44:52,801 --> 00:44:55,721 So, not uncommon to start seeing the runny noses. 784 00:44:55,921 --> 00:44:58,001 So, we just kind of like to prepare parents 785 00:44:58,121 --> 00:45:00,561 to get ready for a few more illnesses with daycare. 786 00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:03,081 But a lot of times, it’s really fun... 787 00:45:04,281 --> 00:45:05,801 When I found out you were doing this documentary 788 00:45:05,921 --> 00:45:08,561 it just immediately was like, this is something 789 00:45:08,841 --> 00:45:11,201 so near and dear to myself and my daughter. 790 00:45:12,681 --> 00:45:15,681 As a pediatrician, we know the value of preparedness. 791 00:45:15,801 --> 00:45:18,761 We do. We know the value of 792 00:45:18,881 --> 00:45:20,881 a fire drill and a tornado drill. 793 00:45:21,001 --> 00:45:23,041 But with kids, those kind of drills 794 00:45:23,841 --> 00:45:25,521 they don't have a bad guy, right? 795 00:45:25,601 --> 00:45:28,401 And so the notion of an active shooter drill 796 00:45:28,521 --> 00:45:31,681 brings in an element of “there are unsafe people”. 797 00:45:32,481 --> 00:45:34,001 And, um... 798 00:45:34,121 --> 00:45:36,281 that is a whole different level of 799 00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:37,841 of, um... 800 00:45:38,441 --> 00:45:40,241 anxiety for kids. 801 00:45:40,641 --> 00:45:42,481 Unfortunately, there's some reality too. 802 00:45:45,401 --> 00:45:47,761 On January 26, 2021 803 00:45:47,881 --> 00:45:49,641 so just a little over two years ago 804 00:45:49,761 --> 00:45:52,841 we had a gunman come into our office 805 00:45:52,961 --> 00:45:54,401 at the end of our clinic day 806 00:45:54,521 --> 00:45:57,321 with the sole intention of killing a female physician 807 00:45:57,441 --> 00:45:58,796 that day. 808 00:45:59,721 --> 00:46:01,881 My daughter was dropped off 809 00:46:02,161 --> 00:46:04,201 a few minutes before the gunman came. 810 00:46:05,481 --> 00:46:08,121 At the time she was twelve. She already had some anxiety. 811 00:46:08,201 --> 00:46:11,961 In fact, for years, she actually has had nightmares 812 00:46:12,081 --> 00:46:13,241 about active shooters. 813 00:46:13,481 --> 00:46:15,041 Even though prior to that she never experienced 814 00:46:15,161 --> 00:46:16,521 any gun violence. 815 00:46:16,641 --> 00:46:20,081 The idea for her that the boogeyman is now human 816 00:46:20,561 --> 00:46:25,041 and really did do harm, became very real. 817 00:46:32,961 --> 00:46:37,201 That day actually started off, not pleasant. 818 00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:40,801 I had a fight with my dad and that ended up with 819 00:46:40,921 --> 00:46:44,081 me feeling like wanting to die. 820 00:46:47,361 --> 00:46:50,081 When my mom wanted to take me inside to her office 821 00:46:50,201 --> 00:46:53,241 a group of people came outside, running. 822 00:46:55,641 --> 00:46:57,681 There was a gunman inside the office 823 00:46:57,801 --> 00:47:00,801 that had hostage equipment. 824 00:47:02,681 --> 00:47:05,241 And we didn't know what his intentions were. 825 00:47:05,361 --> 00:47:07,521 We just knew that there was a guy in the office 826 00:47:07,681 --> 00:47:08,961 that had a gun. 827 00:47:12,801 --> 00:47:15,521 The doctor that was inside that day 828 00:47:15,641 --> 00:47:16,641 she was helping my mom 829 00:47:16,761 --> 00:47:19,241 with finding like, stuff for my therapy 830 00:47:19,521 --> 00:47:21,121 that specific day. 831 00:47:23,561 --> 00:47:25,641 I remember my mom telling us that, like 832 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,760 she wasn't going to die. 833 00:47:26,801 --> 00:47:30,681 And if anyone could go through a hostage situation escape 834 00:47:30,801 --> 00:47:31,841 that would be her. 835 00:47:32,681 --> 00:47:34,681 Because she just had this, like 836 00:47:34,801 --> 00:47:38,241 way of talking that you could get along with her 837 00:47:38,361 --> 00:47:40,881 even if you were like, a murderer. 838 00:47:45,001 --> 00:47:46,521 And that's when my mom 839 00:47:46,641 --> 00:47:50,521 told us all to run to the office next door. 840 00:47:54,161 --> 00:47:55,961 I asked my mom like, a couple times, like: 841 00:47:56,081 --> 00:47:58,121 “Are we going to die?” 842 00:47:58,881 --> 00:48:00,201 What did she answer? 843 00:48:01,161 --> 00:48:03,161 She couldn't answer... 844 00:48:03,961 --> 00:48:06,201 because she didn't have an answer. 845 00:48:07,641 --> 00:48:10,161 At the time that was the worst possible thing... 846 00:48:10,281 --> 00:48:12,721 was silence and not knowing 847 00:48:13,121 --> 00:48:15,041 if I actually was or not. 848 00:48:17,001 --> 00:48:19,081 And that helped me realize, like, that's not what I want. 849 00:48:19,201 --> 00:48:21,001 I don't want die, I want to live. 850 00:48:21,121 --> 00:48:23,841 I want to experience life in a way that... 851 00:48:24,601 --> 00:48:27,601 is amazing and fun and... 852 00:48:30,441 --> 00:48:32,721 That's definitely not how I wanted to die. 853 00:48:43,641 --> 00:48:46,961 We had hours of being concerned that our lives were in danger. 854 00:48:47,481 --> 00:48:48,761 And to look at your child at twelve 855 00:48:48,841 --> 00:48:49,841 laying on the floor. 856 00:48:51,281 --> 00:48:53,041 And then six hours of SWAT. 857 00:48:53,161 --> 00:48:55,001 My daughter had to watch a SWAT team 858 00:48:55,121 --> 00:48:58,561 prepare over and over again, how to handle the situation. 859 00:48:58,681 --> 00:49:01,681 And unfortunately, it did not end how we expected. 860 00:49:01,801 --> 00:49:04,561 And she had to process, just like myself... 861 00:49:04,681 --> 00:49:09,721 when they came and told us that, that our dear friend, her doctor 862 00:49:10,601 --> 00:49:13,241 had been shot and, um... 863 00:49:15,721 --> 00:49:18,641 I think we were honestly in shock. 864 00:49:25,121 --> 00:49:29,041 We had no idea that that was going to happen. 865 00:49:30,401 --> 00:49:32,841 Because, like... 866 00:49:38,921 --> 00:49:40,761 Sirens. 867 00:49:46,961 --> 00:49:49,241 Do they make you feel uncomfortable? 868 00:49:49,641 --> 00:49:50,681 Yeah. 869 00:50:00,601 --> 00:50:03,441 What is going through your mind, now that you're hearing them? 870 00:50:04,041 --> 00:50:05,521 Just a lot of stuff. 871 00:50:06,241 --> 00:50:07,921 When I hear sirens, I... 872 00:50:08,281 --> 00:50:11,361 go straight to shootings. And I'm not safe. 873 00:50:27,961 --> 00:50:30,121 Her lockdown drills now... 874 00:50:30,521 --> 00:50:33,521 We have it set up where she does not participate 875 00:50:33,961 --> 00:50:36,441 in active shooter drills at school. 876 00:50:36,561 --> 00:50:39,561 So her counselor at school knows to pull her. 877 00:50:40,041 --> 00:50:42,041 If I'm not working, I will go pick her up 878 00:50:42,161 --> 00:50:43,481 and we will go have coffee. 879 00:50:49,441 --> 00:50:52,641 Just because it is... It’s too much for her. 880 00:50:54,121 --> 00:50:56,001 Yeah, it changes you. 881 00:51:11,961 --> 00:51:13,601 Are you supposed to have a drill this week? 882 00:51:13,921 --> 00:51:14,961 I'm not sure. 883 00:51:15,721 --> 00:51:17,681 Honestly, nobody will know. 884 00:51:17,801 --> 00:51:19,561 I'm usually the one that knows. 885 00:51:19,641 --> 00:51:21,761 Yeah, I didn’t see a note from your counselor. 886 00:51:21,881 --> 00:51:24,281 But they don’t send out an email to everybody? 887 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,360 No. 888 00:51:25,401 --> 00:51:26,401 So you’re the only one that knows. 889 00:51:26,521 --> 00:51:28,001 It's a surprise, even for the teachers. 890 00:51:29,161 --> 00:51:30,961 Do they announce that it's a drill? 891 00:51:31,081 --> 00:51:32,801 - Do they say: “This is a drill”? - No, no. 892 00:51:32,921 --> 00:51:35,201 “This is a real emergency”, is what they say. 893 00:51:35,881 --> 00:51:38,521 So what happens if someone's in the hallway? 894 00:51:38,801 --> 00:51:41,561 The doors are locked so you can't go back in. 895 00:51:42,121 --> 00:51:44,281 That's why I don't use the restroom at school 896 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,456 or go in the hallway. 897 00:51:45,481 --> 00:51:46,521 Because you're afraid you're gonna get stuck 898 00:51:46,641 --> 00:51:47,601 in a lockdown. 899 00:51:47,681 --> 00:51:48,601 - Oh my... - Yeah. 900 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,880 It's kind of weird 901 00:51:50,001 --> 00:51:51,721 because as much training as you get 902 00:51:51,841 --> 00:51:54,041 the very person that may come up and shoot up your school 903 00:51:54,161 --> 00:51:55,801 is going to have gone through the same training. 904 00:51:56,001 --> 00:51:57,168 Oh yeah. 905 00:51:58,041 --> 00:51:59,561 Kids out of America 906 00:51:59,881 --> 00:52:02,881 they, like look at us like we're crazy. 907 00:52:03,481 --> 00:52:04,641 Because honestly 908 00:52:04,761 --> 00:52:06,801 they don't have to go through, what we go through. 909 00:52:07,401 --> 00:52:09,721 And that is mind blowing, because that's... 910 00:52:10,521 --> 00:52:11,961 that's our lives now. 911 00:52:14,601 --> 00:52:16,561 I would love to wake up and go to school 912 00:52:16,681 --> 00:52:18,321 and not have to worry about dying. 913 00:52:19,001 --> 00:52:21,681 Not have to worry about getting a bulletproof backpack. 914 00:52:23,761 --> 00:52:25,001 That sucks. 915 00:52:26,321 --> 00:52:27,641 It sure does. 916 00:52:28,881 --> 00:52:30,681 When do you have to do your debate? 917 00:52:32,001 --> 00:52:34,161 - Wednesday. - Are you ready? 918 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,890 No... 919 00:52:35,921 --> 00:52:37,481 I have to memorize the speech. 920 00:52:38,921 --> 00:52:41,641 So do you remember how you’re starting your speech? 921 00:52:42,401 --> 00:52:44,001 Run, hide, fight. 922 00:52:45,361 --> 00:52:47,552 Run. Hide. Fight. 923 00:52:48,441 --> 00:52:50,761 Three words you think you would never need to know 924 00:52:50,881 --> 00:52:52,561 especially at school. 925 00:52:53,201 --> 00:52:54,761 You would think school is a place to learn 926 00:52:54,881 --> 00:52:58,081 but right now, it feels like it could be a place to die. 927 00:52:59,401 --> 00:53:02,001 America shouldn't be like this. 928 00:53:02,481 --> 00:53:05,161 Schools shouldn't be like this. 929 00:53:05,641 --> 00:53:07,761 We need to become the kind of country that says 930 00:53:07,881 --> 00:53:09,921 lives of children are more valuable 931 00:53:10,041 --> 00:53:11,921 than the right to weapons that have killed them. 932 00:53:12,001 --> 00:53:13,681 Time and time again. 933 00:53:14,201 --> 00:53:15,521 Since Columbine. 934 00:53:15,641 --> 00:53:17,001 Since Sandy Hook. 935 00:53:17,201 --> 00:53:18,441 Since Red Lake. 936 00:53:18,681 --> 00:53:20,521 Since West Nickel Mines. 937 00:53:20,681 --> 00:53:21,961 Since Virginia Tech. 938 00:53:22,241 --> 00:53:23,481 Since Oikos. 939 00:53:23,681 --> 00:53:24,801 Since Umpqua. 940 00:53:25,081 --> 00:53:28,005 Since Parkland. Since Santa Fe. Since Uvalde. 941 00:53:28,121 --> 00:53:29,721 Since Northern Illinois's. 942 00:53:29,825 --> 00:53:32,716 Since UT. Since West Side. Since Iowa. 943 00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:34,536 Since Michigan State. Since Nashville. 944 00:53:34,561 --> 00:53:35,743 Since... 945 00:53:38,841 --> 00:53:41,401 The fact that I can name hundreds more makes me sick. 946 00:53:42,601 --> 00:53:44,361 The question it comes down to 947 00:53:44,561 --> 00:53:46,241 is kids or guns. 948 00:53:54,321 --> 00:53:56,321 The Uvalde shooter reportedly used 949 00:53:56,441 --> 00:53:58,881 an AR-15 style semi-automatic rifle 950 00:53:59,001 --> 00:54:01,561 in the bloodbath at Robb Elementary School 951 00:54:01,681 --> 00:54:03,001 in Uvalde, Texas 952 00:54:03,401 --> 00:54:05,441 which is three hours away from us. 953 00:54:08,001 --> 00:54:10,921 It took nearly 77 minutes 954 00:54:11,041 --> 00:54:14,881 for nearly 400 law enforcement officers 955 00:54:15,161 --> 00:54:17,961 to face an 18 year old with an AR-15 956 00:54:18,281 --> 00:54:21,281 who murdered 21 people in just minutes. 957 00:54:23,241 --> 00:54:25,721 Many were unidentifiable. 958 00:54:47,321 --> 00:54:48,961 I grew up in Uvalde. 959 00:54:50,521 --> 00:54:51,921 I was a bookworm. 960 00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:53,441 I always loved reading. 961 00:54:55,241 --> 00:54:57,921 I was much you know, very much a rule follower. 962 00:55:00,241 --> 00:55:01,321 One time 963 00:55:01,441 --> 00:55:02,801 I was chewing gum in class 964 00:55:02,921 --> 00:55:04,881 and I got sent to lunch detention 965 00:55:05,001 --> 00:55:06,201 because I was chewing gum in class 966 00:55:06,321 --> 00:55:07,761 and that was not allowed. 967 00:55:08,001 --> 00:55:10,601 And that was the only time I ever got in trouble. 968 00:55:11,081 --> 00:55:12,441 Are you still a rule follower? 969 00:55:12,561 --> 00:55:13,721 Because that's really funny that you say 970 00:55:13,841 --> 00:55:15,601 chewing gum is like the worst... 971 00:55:16,881 --> 00:55:18,361 Yes, yes. 972 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,760 Good girl! 973 00:55:22,281 --> 00:55:23,481 When I was in second grade 974 00:55:23,601 --> 00:55:25,521 my teacher asked me to go up to the board 975 00:55:25,641 --> 00:55:27,441 and I was showing something to the students. 976 00:55:27,561 --> 00:55:28,881 I think we were doing math. 977 00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:31,761 I liked it. I like being up there 978 00:55:31,881 --> 00:55:33,441 and, you know, the class following me. 979 00:55:33,561 --> 00:55:34,601 And since then 980 00:55:35,361 --> 00:55:36,881 I always knew that's what I wanted to do. 981 00:55:37,001 --> 00:55:38,321 I wanted to be a teacher. 982 00:55:39,561 --> 00:55:41,441 I started in 1993. 983 00:55:41,801 --> 00:55:44,201 So 30 years I've been teaching. 984 00:55:45,601 --> 00:55:46,641 I loved it. 985 00:55:47,721 --> 00:55:49,081 And then it just turned... 986 00:55:49,201 --> 00:55:51,201 you know, everything went bad. 987 00:55:53,561 --> 00:55:55,881 On May 24th 988 00:55:56,001 --> 00:55:58,641 we only had three more days of school to go. 989 00:55:58,761 --> 00:56:00,641 So we... That day we were doing 990 00:56:00,761 --> 00:56:02,921 some STEM projects with newspaper. 991 00:56:05,001 --> 00:56:06,521 We were going to have a little race 992 00:56:06,641 --> 00:56:09,081 and they were going to try out their newspaper shoes 993 00:56:09,401 --> 00:56:12,401 to see who made the sturdiest shoes. 994 00:56:14,161 --> 00:56:16,161 So we took some pictures. 995 00:56:17,401 --> 00:56:19,641 I think we took about four or five pictures. 996 00:56:19,761 --> 00:56:21,681 And so then they lined up 997 00:56:21,801 --> 00:56:23,721 and we're getting ready to go outside. 998 00:56:23,841 --> 00:56:25,081 And then my line leader 999 00:56:25,201 --> 00:56:28,201 she's looking out the window and she says 1000 00:56:28,761 --> 00:56:29,761 “Miss... ” 1001 00:56:30,121 --> 00:56:31,801 “Miss Deming’s class came in... 1002 00:56:32,881 --> 00:56:35,321 “screaming and they ran in the room 1003 00:56:35,441 --> 00:56:36,881 and they slammed the door.” 1004 00:56:37,681 --> 00:56:38,575 And I said 1005 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,480 “let me see what's, what's going on.” 1006 00:56:40,681 --> 00:56:41,561 So then, um... 1007 00:56:41,681 --> 00:56:43,961 she moves out of the way and I open the door 1008 00:56:44,081 --> 00:56:45,161 and I... 1009 00:56:45,441 --> 00:56:47,241 poke my head out into the hallway 1010 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,336 to see, you know 1011 00:56:48,361 --> 00:56:50,201 if I could see what's going on. 1012 00:56:50,321 --> 00:56:52,761 And when I do that, I hear somebody screaming 1013 00:56:52,881 --> 00:56:55,481 “Get in your rooms, get in your rooms!” 1014 00:56:55,601 --> 00:56:58,881 So immediately I know something is going on. 1015 00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:02,601 I slam the door shut. 1016 00:57:03,321 --> 00:57:04,721 I turn off the lights. 1017 00:57:07,161 --> 00:57:11,041 We had blackout curtains so the room was very dark. 1018 00:57:12,281 --> 00:57:14,201 They all start running to the corner 1019 00:57:14,321 --> 00:57:17,321 where we usually do our lock down drill 1020 00:57:18,241 --> 00:57:19,921 and as soon as we're doing that 1021 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,320 we start hearing the shots in the hallway. 1022 00:57:26,281 --> 00:57:27,841 Some of the girls start crying 1023 00:57:27,961 --> 00:57:30,081 and I'm trying to calm them down. 1024 00:57:32,161 --> 00:57:33,401 And I feel 1025 00:57:33,521 --> 00:57:34,801 something hit me... 1026 00:57:35,041 --> 00:57:36,321 in my stomach. 1027 00:57:37,401 --> 00:57:40,961 And so I put my hand immediately on there and... 1028 00:57:41,201 --> 00:57:43,481 And then I see that I have blood. 1029 00:57:44,161 --> 00:57:45,841 So I tell the kids 1030 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,040 “Oh, no...” 1031 00:57:47,081 --> 00:57:48,081 “I’m shot.” 1032 00:57:48,561 --> 00:57:50,201 “Is anybody else hurt?” 1033 00:57:52,321 --> 00:57:54,241 They say, “No, no.” 1034 00:57:54,361 --> 00:57:57,361 And then by that point, I fall to the floor. 1035 00:57:59,801 --> 00:58:01,961 This bullet had to go through 1036 00:58:02,401 --> 00:58:04,401 three walls to get to me. 1037 00:58:06,801 --> 00:58:08,001 And... 1038 00:58:08,961 --> 00:58:11,041 and we keep hearing, we keep hearing... 1039 00:58:11,521 --> 00:58:12,881 Shots. More and more shots. 1040 00:58:13,001 --> 00:58:15,361 And it just sounds like, one right after the other 1041 00:58:15,481 --> 00:58:17,561 like that, just fire, fire, fire. 1042 00:58:17,681 --> 00:58:19,241 And, um... 1043 00:58:20,801 --> 00:58:22,801 They're scared. They’re scared for me. 1044 00:58:24,081 --> 00:58:25,561 But I tell them we need to stay down. 1045 00:58:25,681 --> 00:58:27,241 We need to stay quiet. 1046 00:58:28,401 --> 00:58:29,709 And, um... 1047 00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:31,561 I was praying, you know 1048 00:58:31,681 --> 00:58:33,601 I didn't want to die in front of my kids. 1049 00:58:33,721 --> 00:58:34,921 I didn't want them 1050 00:58:35,041 --> 00:58:36,561 you know, to go through that. 1051 00:58:40,281 --> 00:58:42,601 And then, my little girls, some of my little girls 1052 00:58:42,721 --> 00:58:45,081 that were next to me were patting me 1053 00:58:45,201 --> 00:58:46,321 and they were telling me 1054 00:58:46,641 --> 00:58:48,361 “We love you, Miss. You’re going to be okay.” 1055 00:58:48,601 --> 00:58:50,041 “It's okay.” 1056 00:59:11,161 --> 00:59:13,601 So they were very, very brave. 1057 00:59:27,601 --> 00:59:29,201 So what do you feel about 1058 00:59:29,321 --> 00:59:31,561 teaching kids 1059 00:59:32,481 --> 00:59:35,361 to go hide behind the corner to protect yourself 1060 00:59:35,481 --> 00:59:37,961 from a guy with a weapon like that? 1061 00:59:39,121 --> 00:59:40,801 That doesn't make sense, right? 1062 00:59:40,921 --> 00:59:44,561 The kids knowing what to do and, you know, trying to stay safe 1063 00:59:45,721 --> 00:59:48,681 helped in my, in my classroom 1064 00:59:48,801 --> 00:59:52,241 but in the classrooms where he was able to get in, you know 1065 00:59:52,401 --> 00:59:54,081 there was really nothing they could do. 1066 00:59:54,201 --> 00:59:57,041 There was nowhere to hide, you know. 1067 00:59:57,161 --> 00:59:58,401 If the same thing would have been 1068 00:59:58,521 --> 01:00:00,601 in my classroom too, if he had entered... 1069 01:00:01,041 --> 01:00:02,401 There really wasn't... 1070 01:00:03,441 --> 01:00:05,601 much, that we could have done. 1071 01:00:05,721 --> 01:00:06,921 So, um... 1072 01:00:08,841 --> 01:00:10,721 I really don't know that 1073 01:00:11,241 --> 01:00:13,041 the drills are the solution either. 1074 01:00:13,161 --> 01:00:14,344 We need... 1075 01:00:14,721 --> 01:00:15,938 we need more. 1076 01:00:45,801 --> 01:00:47,801 In the beginning, it was so hard. 1077 01:00:48,681 --> 01:00:51,601 In the hospital, the first two weeks... 1078 01:00:52,681 --> 01:00:55,001 I couldn't tolerate any noises. 1079 01:00:55,321 --> 01:00:58,401 Any sudden sounds would trigger me back. 1080 01:01:08,401 --> 01:01:10,041 Whenever I would 1081 01:01:10,161 --> 01:01:11,641 hear noises, I would... 1082 01:01:12,601 --> 01:01:13,681 I would start panicking 1083 01:01:13,801 --> 01:01:16,241 and I would start crying uncontrollably. 1084 01:01:18,201 --> 01:01:21,281 I couldn't be around anybody. I just had my sister. 1085 01:01:31,481 --> 01:01:32,601 I did everything. 1086 01:01:32,721 --> 01:01:34,841 You know, I followed all the protocol 1087 01:01:35,201 --> 01:01:36,481 for the drills and everything. 1088 01:01:36,601 --> 01:01:38,961 I still ended up getting injured. 1089 01:01:39,081 --> 01:01:40,961 He never came to my classroom, but I still ended up... 1090 01:01:41,081 --> 01:01:43,921 So it's like you say, how do you prepare for that? 1091 01:01:44,041 --> 01:01:46,401 Wear a bulletproof vest every day, I guess, I mean... 1092 01:01:46,521 --> 01:01:48,881 - Bulletproof walls? - Bulletproof everything. 1093 01:01:49,481 --> 01:01:51,401 Bulletproof our life. I mean... 1094 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,776 Live in a bubble? 1095 01:01:52,801 --> 01:01:55,361 Live in a bubble? It’s crazy. 1096 01:01:56,201 --> 01:01:59,321 Because now even y'all here now, are doing the drills, right? 1097 01:02:00,601 --> 01:02:01,801 It's supposed to be instant. 1098 01:02:01,921 --> 01:02:03,841 So, when they tell you: do this 1099 01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:05,441 you automatically know what to do. 1100 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,336 Yeah, I just sit in my office. 1101 01:02:07,361 --> 01:02:09,641 Okay, how am I going to dig my way out of here? 1102 01:02:09,761 --> 01:02:13,361 - You know, I start thinking... - I know, that’s scary. 1103 01:02:14,081 --> 01:02:16,521 That's me, when I go somewhere... 1104 01:02:16,641 --> 01:02:18,081 Grab my gun. 1105 01:02:18,361 --> 01:02:19,921 Because I don't know if she told you 1106 01:02:20,081 --> 01:02:21,321 I do carry a gun. 1107 01:02:21,721 --> 01:02:25,121 Do you really feel comfortable stopping an active shooter? 1108 01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:26,281 If somebody is coming at me 1109 01:02:26,401 --> 01:02:27,961 you think I'm not going to defend myself 1110 01:02:28,081 --> 01:02:29,761 If I know how to shoot back? 1111 01:02:30,481 --> 01:02:31,561 I wouldn't hesitate. 1112 01:02:33,521 --> 01:02:36,081 - I would not hesitate. - You’re different than me. 1113 01:02:36,561 --> 01:02:38,641 I guess because you're in a different setting. 1114 01:02:38,761 --> 01:02:41,161 You're in an office and you're by yourself. 1115 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,638 I'm with... 1116 01:02:42,663 --> 01:02:44,561 - You're with kids. - 20 kids, you know. 1117 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,800 You're with kids. 1118 01:02:45,841 --> 01:02:47,521 I would have to think, you know. 1119 01:02:47,641 --> 01:02:49,161 Well no, even then. 1120 01:02:50,001 --> 01:02:51,081 More so. 1121 01:02:51,321 --> 01:02:53,121 - To protect them? - To protect them. 1122 01:02:53,841 --> 01:02:56,121 - Then I’m not a gun person - You're not a gun person. 1123 01:02:56,241 --> 01:02:57,961 You're afraid of guns. 1124 01:02:58,041 --> 01:03:00,561 You don't like, You don't like them at all. 1125 01:03:00,681 --> 01:03:02,161 I've never been afraid of them. 1126 01:03:02,281 --> 01:03:03,441 We're just different that way. 1127 01:03:03,561 --> 01:03:04,675 Yeah. 1128 01:03:06,761 --> 01:03:10,161 I even practice to make sure that 1129 01:03:12,241 --> 01:03:14,521 I shoot, you know... 1130 01:03:15,201 --> 01:03:17,241 to stop the person. 1131 01:03:17,361 --> 01:03:19,681 How do you how to, where to stop them. 1132 01:03:19,801 --> 01:03:22,121 - Where do you have to shoot? - Body mass. 1133 01:03:22,601 --> 01:03:24,601 - I don’t even... - Or artery. 1134 01:03:25,361 --> 01:03:26,961 But that's harder to shoot up here. 1135 01:03:27,081 --> 01:03:28,681 That's why you, full body mass. 1136 01:03:28,721 --> 01:03:30,801 But wouldn't you shoot at their hand... 1137 01:03:30,921 --> 01:03:31,961 Their shooting hand? 1138 01:03:32,121 --> 01:03:33,921 No, because if you miss, they're going to shoot you. 1139 01:03:34,041 --> 01:03:36,001 That's true. See? 1140 01:03:36,121 --> 01:03:38,441 So y'all study all that when you take those classes? 1141 01:03:38,521 --> 01:03:40,001 - Yes. - Oh, ok. 1142 01:03:41,081 --> 01:03:42,441 Now you know, sister. 1143 01:03:43,321 --> 01:03:44,921 We should feel safe when we're around you. 1144 01:03:45,041 --> 01:03:46,521 I guess you can protect us. 1145 01:03:46,641 --> 01:03:48,281 Well, I’m going to try, yeah. 1146 01:03:49,881 --> 01:03:51,121 That's true. 1147 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,640 How many more guns 1148 01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:21,681 do people in the United States need 1149 01:04:21,841 --> 01:04:23,561 to feel better, to feel safe? 1150 01:04:24,761 --> 01:04:26,241 There is no end to it. 1151 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,136 Uvalde, Texas. 1152 01:04:30,161 --> 01:04:31,481 There were so many good guys 1153 01:04:31,601 --> 01:04:35,481 standing outside and not confronting the bad guy. 1154 01:04:35,801 --> 01:04:39,681 So how long can we just fixate on the bad guy. 1155 01:04:49,561 --> 01:04:50,841 I don't want to become this person 1156 01:04:50,961 --> 01:04:52,521 that feels the need to go get a gun 1157 01:04:52,641 --> 01:04:53,670 to protect myself. 1158 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,840 Yeah. 1159 01:04:54,881 --> 01:04:56,441 I just don't want to be like that. 1160 01:04:57,041 --> 01:04:58,081 That person. 1161 01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,256 And I don’t... 1162 01:04:59,281 --> 01:05:01,921 I just don't want to worry about her the whole time. 1163 01:05:02,041 --> 01:05:04,601 And I don't want her to grow up like that, so... 1164 01:05:05,241 --> 01:05:06,486 You know. 1165 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,440 I don't want her to think about all this shit. 1166 01:05:13,481 --> 01:05:14,761 It’s ridiculous. 1167 01:05:20,521 --> 01:05:24,241 Yeah, to live in fear is just a horrible way to live. 1168 01:05:25,041 --> 01:05:27,961 I don't think people realize the effects that it has on you 1169 01:05:28,081 --> 01:05:29,201 - and your well-being. - No. 1170 01:05:29,281 --> 01:05:30,397 If you’re... 1171 01:05:31,641 --> 01:05:32,961 afraid to send your kid to school 1172 01:05:33,041 --> 01:05:34,641 You're afraid to go to the grocery store. 1173 01:05:35,241 --> 01:05:37,201 So for me, this is not a safe place 1174 01:05:37,321 --> 01:05:38,521 for a kid to grow up. 1175 01:05:39,961 --> 01:05:41,681 I don't want to have that anymore. 1176 01:05:43,681 --> 01:05:44,921 It's not worth it. 1177 01:05:45,441 --> 01:05:47,201 - No, it’s not. - It's not worth it. 1178 01:06:03,521 --> 01:06:05,881 I think after all of this, that 1179 01:06:06,001 --> 01:06:08,641 me and my husband kind of came to the conclusion 1180 01:06:10,041 --> 01:06:14,161 that we should raise our kid in Belgium and not here. 1181 01:06:14,401 --> 01:06:15,641 Not only because 1182 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,840 there might be a school shooting 1183 01:06:16,881 --> 01:06:19,241 but also, there might be a drill going wrong 1184 01:06:19,361 --> 01:06:20,841 there might be a teacher that loses it 1185 01:06:20,961 --> 01:06:22,753 that is carrying a gun, you know. 1186 01:06:24,721 --> 01:06:26,641 Yeah, I... 1187 01:06:27,281 --> 01:06:28,721 I don't fault you for your thinking 1188 01:06:28,841 --> 01:06:30,881 and for your logic. And I can only imagine 1189 01:06:31,401 --> 01:06:33,561 how kind of jarring, or shocking 1190 01:06:33,681 --> 01:06:36,241 coming here and seeing this firsthand must be. 1191 01:06:36,401 --> 01:06:39,081 It really must be, quite the experience. 1192 01:06:40,921 --> 01:06:42,001 It is, yeah. 1193 01:06:42,121 --> 01:06:44,041 It is an embarrassment when... 1194 01:06:44,361 --> 01:06:46,521 we all think we live in the best country in the world 1195 01:06:46,641 --> 01:06:49,641 and we can't really solve this problem. 1196 01:06:49,761 --> 01:06:51,681 And other countries really don't have this problem. 1197 01:06:51,881 --> 01:06:54,441 Because I do think there are steps that could be done 1198 01:06:54,601 --> 01:06:57,601 but we just have chosen not to do it for whatever reason. 1199 01:06:57,761 --> 01:06:59,601 It saddens me to see 1200 01:07:00,201 --> 01:07:01,801 you say something like that. 1201 01:07:01,961 --> 01:07:04,161 And I get where you're coming from. 1202 01:07:08,001 --> 01:07:10,001 I would absolutely leave. 1203 01:07:11,241 --> 01:07:13,681 It's not to say there aren't good people here. 1204 01:07:13,881 --> 01:07:16,921 And it's not to say that changes aren't happening. 1205 01:07:17,041 --> 01:07:18,761 They're just not happening fast enough. 1206 01:07:18,881 --> 01:07:21,921 And why would you stay if you have another option. 1207 01:07:23,961 --> 01:07:26,001 Do y’all have lockdown drills in Belgium? 1208 01:07:26,241 --> 01:07:28,521 No we don’t. We never had one. 1209 01:07:28,681 --> 01:07:31,201 - Ever? - Ever. 1210 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,000 We also never had a school shooting. 1211 01:07:40,881 --> 01:07:43,321 Oh my gosh... 1212 01:07:44,401 --> 01:07:46,601 That's crazy. 1213 01:07:49,696 --> 01:07:52,096 So, and here's the question I ask. 1214 01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:54,921 Okay, so yeah, you have a problem with this. 1215 01:07:55,041 --> 01:07:56,601 What's your solution? 1216 01:07:56,841 --> 01:07:58,361 How should we protect kids? 1217 01:07:58,481 --> 01:08:00,561 How should we save kids’ lives? 1218 01:08:02,281 --> 01:08:05,121 The best way to do that within our laws over here 1219 01:08:05,241 --> 01:08:07,721 is to use deadly force with a firearm. 1220 01:08:09,921 --> 01:08:11,601 And that's just the way it is. 1221 01:08:14,801 --> 01:08:16,681 And it's always going to be like that.